When Is A Suicide Not A Suicide?
From Northeast Intelligence Network:
#1 - (as of October 2) One person was killed in an explosion about 100 yards from a packed football stadium at the University of Oklahoma, Saturday, October 1, in what officials are ruling a suicide. The noisy explosion was heard inside Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, where 84,000 were watching the Oklahoma Sooners play Kansas State. A police bomb squad reportedly detonated other explosives found at the site of the blast. No spectators were allowed out of the stadium immediately following the blast, which occurred about 8 p.m. near halftime at the football game.
#2 - (as of October 3) Local and federal agents were carting away what was described as a huge cache of explosives from the apartment of the 21-year-old student who blew himself up outside the stadium where 84,000 watched a Sooners football game. Joel Henry Hinrichs III, 21, a junior from Colorado Springs, Colo., died in the explosion, according to FBI officials. Investigators believe Hinrichs detonated a bomb about 8 p.m. Saturday, just 100 yards away from the packed football stadium. Police were overheard telling residents it would take "several trips and could take up to 24 hours" to remove it all, according to the Daily Oklahoman. A canister trailer used for detonating or transporting potentially explosive material was being used to haul items away. OU President David Boren said Hinrichs was a student "who had very, serious personal problems that led to this tragic death." Boren said the student had explosives strapped to his body. Investigators would not say whether they believe Hinrichs intended to go inside the stadium before the detonation happened.
#3 - (as of October 4) An Oklahoma University student who killed himself by detonating a bomb strapped to his body outside a packed stadium over the weekend was a "suicide bomber" in possession of "Islamic jihad" materials, according to a new report. Joel Henry Hinrichs III, 21, an engineering major at the school blew himself up outside OU's football stadium during Saturday night's game against Kansas State. Doug Hagmann, a seasoned investigator, said he was informed by multiple reliable law-enforcement sources familiar with the investigation into the incident that authorities recovered a "significant amount" of "jihad" materials, as well as Hinrichs' computer. Hagmann also said those same sources indicated police and federal agents "had pulled additional explosives from [Hinrichs'] house," including triacetone triperoxide, or TATP, "homemade explosive [that is] very potent but relatively easily manufactured." TATP was also used in the July mass transit bombings in London, CNN reported, and was used by attempted bomber Richard Reid, who packed his shoes with the compound in an unsuccessful attempt to destroy a U.S.-bound American Airlines flight in December 2001. The confiscated jihad documents "referenced bomb-making manuals and that type of thing," Hagmann said, who added Hinrichs' apartment in Norman, Okla., is "located near the Islamic Society."
#4 - (as of October 6) The student who blew himself up outside a packed Oklahoma University football stadium Saturday night tried to buy large quantities of ammonium nitrate – a key ingredient in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing – the week before, according to a new report. Also, Joel "Joe" Henry Hinrichs III attended a Norman, Okla., mosque near his university-owned apartment – the same one attended by Zacharias Moussaoui, the only person charged in connection with the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, according to a report by KWTV-News 9 in Oklahoma City. Furthermore, Hinrichs was a roommate of a Pakistani student, who was not identified in the News 9 report. Though there were few additional details about that relationship, analysts examining all the evidence say it indicates at least a tenuous connection between the suicide bomber and Middle East Muslims. And one investigator examining the incident says there are some indications authorities may have had prior knowledge of the event. Four days before Hinrichs was killed, the report said, he attempted to buy an undetermined amount of ammonium nitrate at a Norman feed store. One investigator familiar with the case who spoke on condition of anonymity suggested authorities may have known some sort of attack was coming, because witnesses reported tighter-than-usual security for the OU football game against Kansas State, which was under way at the time Hinrichs was killed. For instance, the investigator said, witnesses reported that security guards were patting down and searching many of the more than 84,000 spectators who attended the game before allowing them inside the stadium – not a normal occurrence. The investigator went on to say witnesses told him no such "frisking or patting down" occurred when they attended the OU-Tulsa football game Sept. 10, the last home game before the Hinrichs incident, according to OU's football schedule. Also, according to a statement from the office of OU President David Boren, bomb squads searched the Oklahoma Memorial Stadium. "Prior to the game, the entire stadium was swept by the expert bomb teams with the help of dogs," the statement said.
#5 - (as of October 7) The warrant used to execute a search of Oklahoma University bomber Joel "Henry" Hinrichs III's apartment, where an undetermined amount of explosives were found, has been sealed by a federal court at the request of the Justice Department. Bob Troester, first assistance U.S. attorney in Oklahoma City, said the department requested the warrant be sealed, but declined to elaborate when asked why it was necessary to do so given previous media reports that a depressed Hinrichs acted alone and on a whim.
#6 - (also as of October 7) Found among the items removed from the Park View apartment shared by Joel Henry Hinrichs and Fazal Cheema was at least one ticket to the country of Algeria scheduled for a date subsequent to the University bombing. (It is important to note that there are conflicting reports regarding the number of tickets). Also found were a variety of explosive materials and other items that would facilitate this and perhaps other terrorist operations. So was computer equipment and “unique” items of significant monetary and operational value that will be identified later, thus avoiding potentially compromising an ongoing federal investigation. Preliminary findings suggest that the money trail leads directly to a known and active Islamic terrorist cell that has been in operation in the Norman and Oklahoma City, OK area for at least the last 10-15 years, preceding and tangentially involved in the bombing of the Murrah Building on 19 April 1995.
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From Accuracy In Media:
If you happened to be browsing the Internet last weekend, the headline, "Suicide bombing in Oklahoma" just might have caught your attention. After all, it's not every day that there's a terrorist attack on U.S. soil and supposedly there hasn't been one since 9/11.
But that's exactly what happened outside a packed football stadium at the University of Oklahoma in Norman, Oklahoma on Saturday night (10/1). 21-year-old engineering student Joel Henry Hinrichs III of Colorado Springs detonated a bomb near the stadium, killing himself in the process. The explosion was so powerful that people up to four miles away reported hearing it and windows in the George L. Cross building 100 yards away shattered. One of the drivers of several buses parked in a nearby lot was taken to the hospital after being knocked over by the blast
No one else was injured and 84,000 fans left the stadium, mostly unaware of the magnitude of what occurred outside. Some reported hearing the explosion and seeing rising smoke, as did a few people living in the area. There was a brief delay following the game during which crowds were kept inside while authorities combed the area for evidence and other potential threats. According to Douglas Hagmann, Director of the Northeast Intelligence Network, an anonymous official later confirmed that "other un-detonated explosive devices were found in the area cordoned off by police and federal officials" and were brought in for further testing.
No sooner had the dust settled when officials tried to play the bombing off as the act of yet another crazed "lone gunman" type. Oklahoma University (OU) President David Boren, no doubt trying to protect the university's reputation, eagerly opined on Hinrich's supposed history of mental instability. "We know that he has had what I would call emotional difficulties in the past," he said. "There is certainly no evidence at this point which points to any other kind of motivation other than his personal problems."
Law enforcement officials offered a similarly watered down version of events. The FBI's Oklahoma bureau chief, Salvador Hernandez, U.S. Attorney John Richter and OU Police Chief Elizabeth Woolen, in a joint statement, said, "At this point, we have no information that suggests that there is any additional threat posed by others related to this incident." Not once was the word "terrorism" used by any official involved in the case.
The mainstream media wasn't exactly forthcoming either. Those seeking information immediately following the bombing were hard pressed to find it as there appeared to be a virtual media blackout. None of the cable news networks, including Fox News, referred to the incident and the major wire services, newspapers and websites skipped it entirely. Once again it was left up to bloggers like Mark Tapscott, Michelle Malkin, Wizbang, Gateway Pundit, The Jawa Report and Zombie (photojournalist for Little Green Footballs), as well as the "Freepers" of FreeRepublic.com, to pull together first hand accounts and links to the miniscule amount of news coverage available at the time.
Not only was the story essentially buried when it first broke, but the major media outlets have still not seen fit to address it. But thanks to the investigative efforts of Oklahoma photojournalist Lan Lamphere (whose blog features a firsthand account and video), World Net Daily and the Northeast Intelligence Network (cited above), the evidence points to the likelihood that the incident was indeed a botched terrorist attack.
As recently as August 2005 another UO student, Charles Alfred Dreyling Jr., was arrested at the Will Rogers World Airport after security personnel found what was essentially a pipe bomb in his carry on bag. Dreyling pleaded guilty last month to a misdemeanor charge in federal court in Oklahoma City.
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Geez people! When are you going to understand that World War III, Civilization vs. Radical Islam, has already begin? It would appear that the US and Britain are the only two major groups that are, somewhat, taking it seriously. And even then half of both the US and Britain are spending their efforts saying that Bush and Blair are the real terrorists instead of helping track down these murderers.
I'm willing to bet you my last paycheck that the majority of you didn't even know the facts that I've presented above. If I know this, and I'm just a simple country redneck in Georgia, why hasn't the mainstream media, with all of their reporters, analysts, and resources, told you about this already?
#1 - (as of October 2) One person was killed in an explosion about 100 yards from a packed football stadium at the University of Oklahoma, Saturday, October 1, in what officials are ruling a suicide. The noisy explosion was heard inside Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, where 84,000 were watching the Oklahoma Sooners play Kansas State. A police bomb squad reportedly detonated other explosives found at the site of the blast. No spectators were allowed out of the stadium immediately following the blast, which occurred about 8 p.m. near halftime at the football game.
#2 - (as of October 3) Local and federal agents were carting away what was described as a huge cache of explosives from the apartment of the 21-year-old student who blew himself up outside the stadium where 84,000 watched a Sooners football game. Joel Henry Hinrichs III, 21, a junior from Colorado Springs, Colo., died in the explosion, according to FBI officials. Investigators believe Hinrichs detonated a bomb about 8 p.m. Saturday, just 100 yards away from the packed football stadium. Police were overheard telling residents it would take "several trips and could take up to 24 hours" to remove it all, according to the Daily Oklahoman. A canister trailer used for detonating or transporting potentially explosive material was being used to haul items away. OU President David Boren said Hinrichs was a student "who had very, serious personal problems that led to this tragic death." Boren said the student had explosives strapped to his body. Investigators would not say whether they believe Hinrichs intended to go inside the stadium before the detonation happened.
#3 - (as of October 4) An Oklahoma University student who killed himself by detonating a bomb strapped to his body outside a packed stadium over the weekend was a "suicide bomber" in possession of "Islamic jihad" materials, according to a new report. Joel Henry Hinrichs III, 21, an engineering major at the school blew himself up outside OU's football stadium during Saturday night's game against Kansas State. Doug Hagmann, a seasoned investigator, said he was informed by multiple reliable law-enforcement sources familiar with the investigation into the incident that authorities recovered a "significant amount" of "jihad" materials, as well as Hinrichs' computer. Hagmann also said those same sources indicated police and federal agents "had pulled additional explosives from [Hinrichs'] house," including triacetone triperoxide, or TATP, "homemade explosive [that is] very potent but relatively easily manufactured." TATP was also used in the July mass transit bombings in London, CNN reported, and was used by attempted bomber Richard Reid, who packed his shoes with the compound in an unsuccessful attempt to destroy a U.S.-bound American Airlines flight in December 2001. The confiscated jihad documents "referenced bomb-making manuals and that type of thing," Hagmann said, who added Hinrichs' apartment in Norman, Okla., is "located near the Islamic Society."
#4 - (as of October 6) The student who blew himself up outside a packed Oklahoma University football stadium Saturday night tried to buy large quantities of ammonium nitrate – a key ingredient in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing – the week before, according to a new report. Also, Joel "Joe" Henry Hinrichs III attended a Norman, Okla., mosque near his university-owned apartment – the same one attended by Zacharias Moussaoui, the only person charged in connection with the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, according to a report by KWTV-News 9 in Oklahoma City. Furthermore, Hinrichs was a roommate of a Pakistani student, who was not identified in the News 9 report. Though there were few additional details about that relationship, analysts examining all the evidence say it indicates at least a tenuous connection between the suicide bomber and Middle East Muslims. And one investigator examining the incident says there are some indications authorities may have had prior knowledge of the event. Four days before Hinrichs was killed, the report said, he attempted to buy an undetermined amount of ammonium nitrate at a Norman feed store. One investigator familiar with the case who spoke on condition of anonymity suggested authorities may have known some sort of attack was coming, because witnesses reported tighter-than-usual security for the OU football game against Kansas State, which was under way at the time Hinrichs was killed. For instance, the investigator said, witnesses reported that security guards were patting down and searching many of the more than 84,000 spectators who attended the game before allowing them inside the stadium – not a normal occurrence. The investigator went on to say witnesses told him no such "frisking or patting down" occurred when they attended the OU-Tulsa football game Sept. 10, the last home game before the Hinrichs incident, according to OU's football schedule. Also, according to a statement from the office of OU President David Boren, bomb squads searched the Oklahoma Memorial Stadium. "Prior to the game, the entire stadium was swept by the expert bomb teams with the help of dogs," the statement said.
#5 - (as of October 7) The warrant used to execute a search of Oklahoma University bomber Joel "Henry" Hinrichs III's apartment, where an undetermined amount of explosives were found, has been sealed by a federal court at the request of the Justice Department. Bob Troester, first assistance U.S. attorney in Oklahoma City, said the department requested the warrant be sealed, but declined to elaborate when asked why it was necessary to do so given previous media reports that a depressed Hinrichs acted alone and on a whim.
#6 - (also as of October 7) Found among the items removed from the Park View apartment shared by Joel Henry Hinrichs and Fazal Cheema was at least one ticket to the country of Algeria scheduled for a date subsequent to the University bombing. (It is important to note that there are conflicting reports regarding the number of tickets). Also found were a variety of explosive materials and other items that would facilitate this and perhaps other terrorist operations. So was computer equipment and “unique” items of significant monetary and operational value that will be identified later, thus avoiding potentially compromising an ongoing federal investigation. Preliminary findings suggest that the money trail leads directly to a known and active Islamic terrorist cell that has been in operation in the Norman and Oklahoma City, OK area for at least the last 10-15 years, preceding and tangentially involved in the bombing of the Murrah Building on 19 April 1995.
From Accuracy In Media:
If you happened to be browsing the Internet last weekend, the headline, "Suicide bombing in Oklahoma" just might have caught your attention. After all, it's not every day that there's a terrorist attack on U.S. soil and supposedly there hasn't been one since 9/11.But that's exactly what happened outside a packed football stadium at the University of Oklahoma in Norman, Oklahoma on Saturday night (10/1). 21-year-old engineering student Joel Henry Hinrichs III of Colorado Springs detonated a bomb near the stadium, killing himself in the process. The explosion was so powerful that people up to four miles away reported hearing it and windows in the George L. Cross building 100 yards away shattered. One of the drivers of several buses parked in a nearby lot was taken to the hospital after being knocked over by the blast
No one else was injured and 84,000 fans left the stadium, mostly unaware of the magnitude of what occurred outside. Some reported hearing the explosion and seeing rising smoke, as did a few people living in the area. There was a brief delay following the game during which crowds were kept inside while authorities combed the area for evidence and other potential threats. According to Douglas Hagmann, Director of the Northeast Intelligence Network, an anonymous official later confirmed that "other un-detonated explosive devices were found in the area cordoned off by police and federal officials" and were brought in for further testing.
No sooner had the dust settled when officials tried to play the bombing off as the act of yet another crazed "lone gunman" type. Oklahoma University (OU) President David Boren, no doubt trying to protect the university's reputation, eagerly opined on Hinrich's supposed history of mental instability. "We know that he has had what I would call emotional difficulties in the past," he said. "There is certainly no evidence at this point which points to any other kind of motivation other than his personal problems."
Law enforcement officials offered a similarly watered down version of events. The FBI's Oklahoma bureau chief, Salvador Hernandez, U.S. Attorney John Richter and OU Police Chief Elizabeth Woolen, in a joint statement, said, "At this point, we have no information that suggests that there is any additional threat posed by others related to this incident." Not once was the word "terrorism" used by any official involved in the case.
The mainstream media wasn't exactly forthcoming either. Those seeking information immediately following the bombing were hard pressed to find it as there appeared to be a virtual media blackout. None of the cable news networks, including Fox News, referred to the incident and the major wire services, newspapers and websites skipped it entirely. Once again it was left up to bloggers like Mark Tapscott, Michelle Malkin, Wizbang, Gateway Pundit, The Jawa Report and Zombie (photojournalist for Little Green Footballs), as well as the "Freepers" of FreeRepublic.com, to pull together first hand accounts and links to the miniscule amount of news coverage available at the time.
Not only was the story essentially buried when it first broke, but the major media outlets have still not seen fit to address it. But thanks to the investigative efforts of Oklahoma photojournalist Lan Lamphere (whose blog features a firsthand account and video), World Net Daily and the Northeast Intelligence Network (cited above), the evidence points to the likelihood that the incident was indeed a botched terrorist attack.
As recently as August 2005 another UO student, Charles Alfred Dreyling Jr., was arrested at the Will Rogers World Airport after security personnel found what was essentially a pipe bomb in his carry on bag. Dreyling pleaded guilty last month to a misdemeanor charge in federal court in Oklahoma City.
Geez people! When are you going to understand that World War III, Civilization vs. Radical Islam, has already begin? It would appear that the US and Britain are the only two major groups that are, somewhat, taking it seriously. And even then half of both the US and Britain are spending their efforts saying that Bush and Blair are the real terrorists instead of helping track down these murderers.
I'm willing to bet you my last paycheck that the majority of you didn't even know the facts that I've presented above. If I know this, and I'm just a simple country redneck in Georgia, why hasn't the mainstream media, with all of their reporters, analysts, and resources, told you about this already?
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